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12-12 from seed??

Mattyice
StinkyGr33n
Mattyice
az2000

I’ve done 12/12 from seed. Growing this way implies a small growing space(?). I think an autoflower is a much better choice for that.

My 12/12 from seed was stretchy, produced 20g per plant. (I don’t recall. It wasn’t much). The plants didn’t look normal (they were lanky). They weren’t that small (they were tall for their proportions.).

Autoflowers would have been as tall (or shorter), but more fully formed. More like a bonzai version of a full-size plant.

The downside to autos is that people typically run 18/6 through flower. That’s 50% more energy and wear/tear on your light. You can do 12/12, but the yield will be reduced. Even at 12/12, I’m sure it would yield more than a photosensitive 12/12 from seed.

az2000

Update: I see from your 2nd post that you’re trying to get an early harvest (time-, not space-constraint which I responded to).

Autos are best suited for outdoor growing to get an early harvest. I think that and micro-growing indoors (implying no outdoor space, or wrong time of year) are the “valid” uses of autoflowers. (I put valid in quotes because many people just like to grow them. That’s valid too.). But, if you’re already growing outdoors, an auto would be perfect. Free light from the sun. It will be ready for harvest in 11 weeks. (A little longer than 12/12 from seed, I suppose.).

Mattyice
Seraphine
OldManRiver

Fundamental response to “have you ever thought of” questions: We’ve been growing weed, lots of guys, for 40 years personally, and other guys longer than me. Methods that differ from the common methods, have undoubtedly been tried, and, if they worked, would have been adopted and become known and standard, if they worked better.

If your goal is to do well, it’s best to learn to rock the standard method before deciding to experiment too aggressively, IMO.

To your actual question, any plant needs vegetative size to create large flowers, which is what you want with pot. If the plant doesn’t have a certain leaf area, it can’t produce much bud. The leaf captures the sun’s energy, to convert into plant mass. Larger plants can produce more bud, because they have more leaf area to capture light to make plant stuff out of. Growing a plant in 12/12 from the start, the plant never enters the veg cycle to produce enough leaf area necessary to support a pleasing amount of bud.

BloodShot
OldManRiver
BloodShot
MIMedGrower

Fundamental response to “have you ever thought of” questions: We’ve been growing weed, lots of guys, for 40 years personally, and other guys longer than me. Methods that differ from the common methods, have undoubtedly been tried, and, if they worked, would have been adopted and become known and standard, if they worked better.

If your goal is to do well, it’s best to learn to rock the standard method before deciding to experiment too aggressively, IMO.

To your actual question, any plant needs vegetative size to create large flowers, which is what you want with pot. If the plant doesn’t have a certain leaf area, it can’t produce much bud. The leaf captures the sun’s energy, to convert into plant mass. Larger plants can produce more bud, because they have more leaf area to capture light to make plant stuff out of. Growing a plant in 12/12 from the start, the plant never enters the veg cycle to produce enough leaf area necessary to support a pleasing amount of bud.

In my experience that depends on strain and phenotype. I have grown quite a few different plants from seed 12/12 and with good light and a vigorous sativa leaning hybrid I have matched the yield of 30-45 day vegged plants of the same strain. Up to almost 5 oz on some heavy hitters.

Difference was the vegged plants had stronger branches every time and grew bushier. The 12/12 plants grow fewer leaves and much thinner branches. So they needed a lot of support to grow big buds.

Squatter indica wider leaved hybrids did not do so well. Maybe 2.5 oz on those.

Slow vegging plants will do like you say. But they need more veg time anyway.

I tried clones i eas running too. Pretty much the same results. Short veg fast growing plants like diesel crosses worked great and berry indica type plants much less growth and yield.

What do y’all think about starting seed on a 12-12 cycle from the beginning??🧐